The Gifts of Neurodivergent Leadership with Dr. Michael Freeman
The Anxious Achiever
Morra Aarons-Mele
4.7 • 600 Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | When I was brainstorming ideas for my upcoming book on neurodivergent leadership, my husband and I were joking that I should call it, this is the best idea ever. |
| 0:19.0 | And I don't know how many of you out there who have very busy |
| 0:22.6 | kind of novelty seeking brains can relate to that. Maybe you have ADHD, maybe you're on the |
| 0:30.1 | bipolar spectrum. Who knows? But you have lots of ideas. You have passion. You have energy. |
| 0:37.3 | You have creativity. |
| 0:39.7 | And quite often, something will hit you. |
| 0:43.0 | And you just want to drop everything and pursue it. |
| 0:46.6 | I'm Maura Erin's Mealy, and this is the anxious achiever, |
| 0:51.0 | the show that looks at the intersection of mental health and leadership and work, and asks, how can we do it all better? |
| 0:59.0 | Today, I talk to Dr. Michael Freeman. He's a psychiatrist who's been on the show more. |
| 1:05.5 | And I love Dr. Freeman's work. He both practices with and studies a population that is very relevant to |
| 1:12.9 | this show, whether or not you're an entrepreneur. He looks at entrepreneurs who are neurodivergent |
| 1:20.3 | or have mental illness. The population that he looks at, he says, are more inclined towards |
| 1:25.1 | impulsivity, have higher levels of creativity, are more |
| 1:29.1 | likely to be extroverted, and engage intensely in goals, particularly short to intermediate |
| 1:35.1 | goals. Something really interesting about this population is he says that people in this camp |
| 1:42.0 | are likely to sort of over-index both on good news or bad news. |
| 1:46.1 | Good news feels really, really good and bad news feels worse than it is. |
| 1:51.6 | We also tend to overvalue our own ideas. |
| 1:55.2 | And that's why when we ask the question, which I think about all the time and people ask me, is being |
| 2:02.5 | neurodivergent a superpower right off the bat or is it a vulnerability? |
| 2:08.1 | I think like a lot of things, it's absolutely both, right? |
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