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Witness History

The Germanwings plane crash

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

When General David Galtier hovered above the French Alps in a helicopter on 24 March 2015 he could not see the 60-tonne plane he was looking for.

Instead he saw thousands and thousands of little pieces of metal. “There was nothing,” he says. “Only these little stars shining in the mountains.”

Ten years on, he recalls to Josephine McDermott how he led the police’s search operation, from the moment he heard about the disappearance of Flight 4U 9525, to the handing back of the victims’ possessions.

In the first 24 hours, the possibility that such a routine, short-haul flight cruising with two experienced pilots on board could end in the loss of 150 people was almost impossible to comprehend.

Then, Gen Galtier heard the cockpit voice recorder which revealed the last efforts from air traffic control to communicate with Andreas Lubitz who had locked himself in the cockpit. Investigators drew the harrowing conclusion that he had intended to crash the plane.

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0:27.1

Hello and welcome to the Witness History podcast from the BBC World Service with me,

0:32.1

Josephine McDermott. It's 10 years since the German wings plane disaster. General David Galtier led the search

0:39.2

and rescue operation. Early on, from a helicopter hovering above the crash site in the Alps,

0:45.2

it was clear there would be no one to rescue.

0:51.7

When we are arriving in the zone, we don't see nothing.

0:56.4

And it's incredible because we can't believe that we are on the side.

1:02.6

Where is a plane?

1:04.3

There is no plane.

1:06.0

And at the end, we see thousands and thousands of little things shining and maybe they are pieces of the plane.

1:16.9

And it was that, exactly that.

1:20.0

It was almost impossible to think that a plane of more than 60 tons and 40 meters long disappear and crash in this mountain.

1:32.9

There is nothing, only this little star shining in the mountains.

1:42.6

The morning of the 24th of March 2015 began like any other for General David Galtier,

1:48.3

of France's national gendarmerie, a law enforcement agency separate to the police,

1:53.4

which operates outside of big urban areas.

1:56.7

That morning, I was inspecting a unit in yere.

2:00.6

It was a little bit before an 11 o'clock.

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