4.4 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Aaron Parnas grew up in a Fox News household and once campaigned for Trump. But today, he is a rising progressive voice with millions of followers—and no patience for the media status quo. In this conversation with Katie Couric, he shares how his worldview changed, and why he’s using TikTok and Substack to rewire how we consume the news.
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0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
0:05.0 | I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. |
0:09.0 | Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone. |
0:12.7 | Most of all, his wife, Caroline. |
0:15.2 | He texted, I've ruined our lives. |
0:18.3 | You're going to want to divorce me. |
0:20.6 | How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lost. I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me. |
0:23.8 | How far would he go to cover up what he'd done? The fact that you lied is absolutely horrific. |
0:26.8 | And quite frankly, I question how many other women are out there that may bring forward |
0:30.4 | allegations in the future. |
0:32.1 | Listen to betrayal on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
0:41.1 | Okay. IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jake Hanrahan, journalist and documentary filmmaker. |
0:45.1 | Away Days is my new project, reporting on countercultures on the fringes of society all across the world. |
0:52.7 | Live from the underground, you'll discover no rules fighting, Japanese |
0:56.5 | street racing, resilient favela life, and much more. All real, completely uncensored. |
1:03.4 | Listen to the away days podcast reporting from the underbelly on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, |
1:09.7 | or wherever you get your podcasts. |
1:11.9 | I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? |
1:15.4 | Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. |
1:18.5 | All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month, and on the psychology of your 20s, |
1:22.5 | we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. |
1:27.3 | Prepare for our conversations |
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