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The Intercept Briefing

The Gaza Cauldron

The Intercept Briefing

The Intercept

Politics, Unknown, Daily News, History, News

4.8 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The Israeli government of Benjamin Netanyahu has initiated a total blockade of Gaza amidst a merciless scorched-earth bombing campaign. The country’s defense minister said Israel will operate with an iron fist in its war against “human animals” following the well-coordinated surprise attacks over the weekend led by Hamas. The unprecedented raids into Israel over the weekend killed scores of both Israeli military and civilians. Hamas has vowed to execute Israeli hostages in retaliation for Israel’s bombing of civilian sites in Gaza. 


This week on Intercepted, Al Jazeera’s senior political analyst Marwan Bishara joins Jeremy Scahill and Murtaza Hussain for a wide-ranging discussion on Hamas’s strategy, Netanyahu’s possible attempt to draw the U.S. into a war with Iran, and the prospects for a wider Middle East war. They also discuss the difference in media coverage of Palestinian and Israeli violence and the deaths of civilians, as well as the Biden administration’s role in the crisis.


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0:00.0

Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground, sun on your face as you slide by on track to your destination, not a car in the world, as you simply lean back.

0:17.0

And before you know it, you're there.

0:20.0

This is how travel should feel, and on our trains, it does.

0:25.0

Avanti West Coast, feel good travel.

0:50.0

This is Intercepted.

0:55.0

Welcome to Intercepted. I'm Jeremy Scayhill.

1:00.0

And I'm Murtaza Lussain.

1:02.0

Maz, I think that people who listen to this show Intercepted are following very, very closely the state of siege right now that's happening in Gaza with Israeli officials basically saying that they are locking the entire place down.

1:10.0

And that they're implementing scorched earth bombing. There's talk of a full scale ground invasion and reservists are being called up and we're already seeing in the aftermath of the heavy civilian death toll.

1:20.0

Among Israelis, that was a result of Hamas's blitzkrieg attacks against Israel over the weekend.

1:30.0

We're now seeing skyrocketing.

1:35.0

We're now seeing skyrocketing numbers of Palestinian civilian deaths as a result of the Israeli military campaign.

1:50.0

And we're going to be talking to the political analyst Marwan Basharra in a moment.

1:55.0

But Maz, you wrote a really good piece for the Intercept this week called Biden double down on the Abraham Accords to devastating consequences.

2:07.0

Subtitle of it is the Biden administration's policy of ignoring conditions in Gaza contributed to this weekend's explosion of violence.

2:15.0

Talk about that piece, Maz, and what you were writing about.

2:21.0

Sure, I think essentially the Biden administration's Middle East policy has been to attempt to ignore the Palestinians and to proceed with a Jared Kushner Donald Trump approach of building arms deals and diplomatic agreements between Israel and countries with which it doesn't have any direct conflict like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates.

2:42.0

And this very thorny, difficult issue of diplomacy between these two countries with a great history of enmity and hatred and violence between them, two peoples, Israelis and Palestinians, to sidestep that issue and get these flashy diplomatic wins mostly for domestic consumption in lieu of that.

2:59.0

And I think we see now that was a very short-sighted immature strategy, really a simulation or similar kind of what real diplomacy should be like, which is about making tough deals between enemies and putting conflicts to an end.

3:12.0

And that policy of ignoring the Palestinians and ignoring conditions in Gaza which were reaching such a horrifying breaking point in the recent years has really proven its downfall at this moment.

3:24.0

At very, very tellingly, a few weeks ago, Jake Sullivan, the national security adviser to the White House, he was saying that the Middle East is more peaceful that's been in many, many years just before this catastrophe.

3:35.0

So you can imagine the level of hubris and the short-sightedness that was prevailing within the administration.

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