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This is a podcast from The Times. Go to The Times. Go to the Times.co. UK. You're joining us here for another game podcast bonus and Tony Casarito's here with me and Tony I want to get into something that Joey Barton tweeted but certainly not the first time we've heard it. Sort of this disconnect

between those of us who write about the game and

and commentate on the game, the punditocracy if you will, and the people on the

pitch and you know the argument that when you've actually played at the highest level as Barton does,

you understand the game differently and there's stuff that those of us who haven't

will never get. Now, you're one of those guys who's who's done both you played at the highest level and

You're a pundit

What are some of the biggest most obvious things to you that the media don't get about playing football at the highest level?

Can I just say something before that, Gab? And I'm saying this as not because I'm in the Punmetry world now and I was a footballer before

but there are far more journalists who know a lot more about football than actually players

and I've met many, many players who haven't got a scooby-do about the way football is played, run, to them it's instinctive and what they do they do it good because they can they're gifted

okay and they don't get journals or they don't get guys on the outside because they think

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