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Hello, everyone. You're listening to After Hours. I'm Felix and I'm here. And it's just

the two of us. Yeah, again, did you see the response? Everybody's so excited we're back,

including us. I have to say the heartwarming interactions with listeners, even through this

weird social media thing, it's just great. That's one of the biggest reasons we do this. Aside

from the wonderful time over glass of wine with you, Felix, it is just the opportunity to hear

from people and get ideas from people. It's just fantastic. Wonderful. So what are we talking

about today, Felix? So I thought we could talk about how well we managed during the pandemic

to keep people's incomes relatively stable. There are these really big differences across

countries. And I think now we have sort of the first wave of research that I have seen

that really digs into what worked, what didn't work. That would be great. And I have something

considerably more trivial, which is I want to talk about mobility and transportation and the future.

I know I've like cultivated this reputation as being this ledite who doesn't care about

technology. And now all of a sudden you're forward looking. But there are a couple of things where

I really care. And like I would love to talk about mobility because I think there's some really

exciting things going on. Good. Let's do it.

So Felix, we actually now are learning a little bit about all these really interesting interventions

that were tried during the pandemic. It's an amazing laboratory. It's hard to remember now

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