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Welcome back, George Norie, along with Jason Diamond,

as we talk about his work, Dyer Days.

What major message, Jason, would you love a reader to take away with themselves?

Oh, that's a good one.

Well, I would say something I would like them to take from it is that adaptability, for example,

you know, beats rigidity.

And in dire days, characters who cling to old ways of thinking, for example, they struggle.

And while those who adapt to find strength.

So that's true for leaders today as well.

Flexibility, listening, and learning.

They are far more powerful than stubbornness.

But, you know, also keep in mind, we have to learn how to cooperate.

And that may sound simple, George, but it's actually one of the hardest things we do as humans

because it requires many things, trust, humility, the willingness to put group needs above

personal gain.

And a lot of people don't want to do that.

And that makes people uncomfortable, especially in cultures, that pride, individualism.

So, yeah, that's a main message we want to, you know, get across to the readers.

Why do you think there's so much hatred on this planet, Jason?

That's a great question, George.

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