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The Future Of Free And Fair Elections

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🗓️ 10 September 2025

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Before 2026's midterms, President Trump wants to ban mail-in ballots and electronic voting machines, and change voting rules. Legal expert Richard Hasen discusses the future of free and fair elections in America. "What's it going to mean to have to stand up to the government to make sure that people have their right to vote?" Hasen says. "I think it's very unlikely that the president would say the elections are canceled, but there's lots of things he could do with his power, with the military, with his power over federal government machinery that can make it very difficult for some people to vote."    

Also, book critic Maureen Corrigan reviews Patrick Ryan's novel Buckeye


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exclusive insights. Follow and listen wherever you get your podcasts. This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya

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Mosley. The 2026 midterms are a little over a year away,

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but questions about election integrity are already front and center. Just this week,

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the New York Times reported that the Justice Department is quietly working to build a national

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voter role by collecting sensitive voter data from states, a move

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experts warn could be used to revive false claims of widespread fraud and undermine confidence in

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future elections. And recently, President Trump has openly proposed using executive power to ban

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both mail-in ballots and electronic voting machines. My guest today, law scholar

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Richard Hassan, has warned in a recent op-ed, then an order like that would not only be against the law,

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it would wield, as he writes, the machinery of government to sow doubt, undermine trust, and tilt the

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election playing field. Those warnings echo a broader

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wave of concern. Earlier this week, Mother Jones also published a report on what it's calling

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Project 2026, a coordinated effort by Trump and his allies to rewrite voting rules, redraw congressional

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maps, and pressure state and federal officials who are responsible

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for overseeing elections. It all raises a profound question. Are our democratic institutions strong

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enough to withstand that kind of strain? Richard Hassan teaches law and political science at UCLA,

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where he directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project.

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He's also the author of numerous books on election law and democracy, including his most recent,

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A Real Right to Vote, How a Constitutional Amendment can safeguard American Democracy.

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Our interview was recorded on Tuesday. Richard Hassan, welcome to fresh air.

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