You know them as the journalists behind some of the Australian's most riveting stories.

On Wednesday, National Chief Correspondent and creator of the Teachers Pet Podcast, Headley

Thomas and National Crime Correspondent David Murray joined editorial director Claire Harvey

at a special live event in Brisbane.

We're bringing you that conversation in this special episode of The Front.

Good evening. I'm Claire Harvey. I'm the editorial director of The Australian, which means

one of my great privileges is to look after all the podcasts that we make. I'm here of course

with Headley Thomas and David Murray, who's our National Crime Correspondent. Dave and

Headley and I have become great friends over the past couple of years because we've been

working very closely on the teacher's trial and the teacher's accuser and shandy's legacy.

So I feel like we have stepped into the Renaissance in storytelling that is podcasting, where

we're all extremely privileged to be on the cutting edge of journalism and working

in a field where the Australian's audience is willing to go, that audiences are there

for long form investigative journalism, which of course is why we got into this craft

in the first place. It's unforeseen, isn't it, Dave, that in 2023, long after people

predicted newspapers and journalism would be dead? It's back.

Oh, it is incredible. I think when I started in newspapers, I thought, oh, great. I'll

never have to do radio or TV. I can discover this stuff in print. And I mean, that's just

completely changed in the last few years in particular.

Yeah. And of course, Headley has led us to this great new frontier of journalism. But

what I didn't know when I stepped into your world was exactly that everybody in Brisbane

journalism seems to be related and related to Headley. So something you guys might not

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