The French Gardening Craze of 1908 + The Life of Jane Birkin with Marisa Meltzer (author of It Girl and Glossy)
INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane
Jessica Murnane
4.9 • 651 Ratings
🗓️ 14 October 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
About this week's guest: Marisa is a journalist and New York Times best selling author. She's covered beauty, fashion, wellness, and celebrity for top national publications such as The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue, and Vanity Fair. She is the author of It Girl, Glossy, This Is Big, How Sassy Changed My Life, and Girl Power.
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The French Gardening Craze, 1908-1914
Horticulture, politics and the media in Edwardian Britain
Where you can find Marisa:
Website
Marisa's IG
It Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane Birkin
Glossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier
Irish Blood on Acorn TV
Find your hardiness / growing zone here
Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello. I'm Jessica Renan. This is inside and outside. I am a horticultural therapist, author. |
| 0:20.5 | Lately have been doing brand work again. And I'm also the founder of Basker, where I help people use nature and gardening for mental and social well-being. |
| 0:29.2 | Before we get to it, I have two events coming up. |
| 0:32.4 | On October 25th, I'm hosting an in-person class in Charleston, South Carolina at Redux Contemporary |
| 0:38.4 | Art Center on how to make a podcast. I'll teach you how to concept it, ways to edit and record, |
| 0:45.2 | intro music and art, how to land your dream guest, and even how to monetize it. And then on October |
| 0:51.6 | 26th, I'm hosting an hour-long social hangout. That's virtual. And this will be |
| 0:57.2 | sharing a little bit about what horticultural therapy is. And then after, we'll be doing a little |
| 1:02.8 | art and craft together. There is a very big loneliness epidemic happening right now in our world. And I also know that a lot of us are |
| 1:13.9 | stressed and overwhelmed. So this is going to give you an hour of calm, an hour to hang out with |
| 1:19.5 | nice people. I've priced it at $25 so it can be affordable to most. But if $25 is too much for you, |
| 1:26.8 | message me and we'll work something out. |
| 1:28.8 | You can go to the events page at bascargardens.com to sign up, and I'll put this in the show notes. |
| 1:35.1 | Okay, today's show. I'm talking to Marissa Meltzer. She is a journalist who has covered beauty, fashion, |
| 1:42.5 | wellness, and celebrities for the New York Times, |
| 1:44.7 | The New Yorker, Vogue, Vanity Fair, a million places. And she's also a New York Times bestselling |
| 1:50.4 | author. She wrote Glossie, which I absolutely loved. It was a book just going, do a deep dive |
| 1:57.6 | into Glossier. This is big, how sassy changed my life. And her latest book is called |
| 2:02.7 | It Girl, which chronicles the life of Jane Birkin. I love this conversation so much, but I will also |
| 2:09.3 | say that the sound is not great in some parts, a little staticy, a little echoey, and I couldn't fix it. |
| 2:16.2 | So as you listen, I want you to pretend like you're listening |
| 2:19.7 | to two people talking on a long distance call on a landline, circa 2000. And then it feels really good |
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