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The Tony Robbins Podcast

The Fourth Turning | What past generations can teach us about our future

The Tony Robbins Podcast

Tony Robbins

Marketing, Smallbusinessowner, Education, Tonyrobbins, Business

4.46.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2022

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

There’s no denying that we are part of a significant inflection point in human history. We are truly living in interesting times...

In this episode, Tony speaks with historian and demographer Neil Howe about the fascinating patterns of human history, as he and co-author William Strauss explained more than two decades ago in Generations (1991) and The Fourth Turning (1997).

If you’re feeling stressed, overwhelmed, or uncertain about all that’s happening in the world, this episode will give you a much-needed shift in perspective. You will understand how cycles of crisis catalyze massive economic, cultural, political, and institutional disruption – and how as a society, we solve problems we never thought we could before.

No storm lasts forever, and this too shall pass. Listen to this episode for Neil’s predictions on how much longer this crisis period will last and what we can look forward to in our beautiful, shared future.

To watch the interview, which took place in 2022 in front of a small audience, go here: https://youtu.be/lX1Csk2vn5A

SHOW NOTES

[0:05] Tony was working with President Bill Clinton when he was first told about the book Generations

[2:46] The stages of our lives: childhood, young adult, mid-life, elder

[6:31] The seasons of history and how they overlap with generations

[8:15] Tony welcomes Neil Howe, co-author of Generations, and The Fourth Turning

[10:25] Generations are distinct and always have been

[10:45] How old you are during a big event shapes your experience of it

[12:50] Knife-age division vs. zones of transition (EX. X-ennials)

[13:45] History shapes generations, but (later on) generations shape history

[16:09] The cyclical nature of crises and how they spur “a total remake”

[18:29] Institutions we rely on today were created post-WWII

[20:01] Why do we wait until there is a crisis to solve problems?

[22:10] 1780s economic depression: We created the Constitution in our darkest hour

[24:18] What comes next: The High, collective, feeling more than the sum of our parts

[26:38] The Awakening releases the individual

[27:57] Gen X was left alone and raised themselves = pragmatism & cynicism

[30:08] Silent Generation had to adjust themselves to meet others’ expectations

[31:08] We are in a time of growing tribalism in America

*Show notes continue on website page

Transcript

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0:00.0

You've heard me talk about the fourth turning.

0:08.0

And I was lucky enough back in 1993, 94.

0:13.5

I had the privilege of working the President of the United States, Bill Clinton.

0:16.8

And you couldn't do this today.

0:19.2

But simultaneously, I was working with a speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, on the other side.

0:23.6

I literally left the White House, went over a pass across the Capitol and worked on the other side.

0:28.5

On the same day.

0:30.6

And the reason I mentioned to you is, Bill Clinton was the first person to tell me about this book called Generations by Strauss and How.

0:37.7

And this book was basically 500 years of Anglo-American history.

0:42.5

And it showed that history is shaped by generations and generations are shaped by history.

0:47.8

It was a fascinating book.

0:49.7

And it talked about, book was written in 1991, that in 2020, there'll be this crisis that will be facing.

0:55.7

And it was predicted because of how generations raise the next generation, how we then interpret history.

1:01.8

You get on events, but they're interpreted differently by a different model of the world.

1:05.9

And I thought I was fascinating.

1:08.0

And then in 1997, I was going to Borders bookstore, one of those places.

1:13.0

And I always go by the bin where the non-popular books are, because I'm a contrarian.

1:17.6

I found some of my favorite books in those places.

1:20.1

And it was in that thing, like Mark Down, 70% or 50% of ridiculous,

1:24.1

somebody did this number, and I picked up the book, Strauss and How again.

1:27.8

And I picked up this book, and it's been one of the guidebooks for me to understand what the hell is happening in our world ever since.

1:34.9

It really helped me understand the patterns.

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