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On the Media

The Fog of War

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

BNCH: Ukraine Edition; war OSINT; and Putin's white Christian nationalism.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's really difficult to put wool over people's eyes when you're bombing innocent civilians.

0:08.1

When civilians are filming those bombs.

0:11.3

Putin bars Russian journalists from describing his action in Ukraine as war or invasion.

0:17.6

But muscling social media isn't so simple.

0:20.6

From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media.

0:23.3

I'm Brooke Gladstone.

0:24.8

Also this week, how open source intelligence penetrates the fog of war.

0:30.5

The signal was the Google Maps app that you and I have on our phones.

0:35.2

You don't get much congestion in rural Belgrade region at 3.15 in the morning.

0:41.9

Plus, why some far-right figures are so very bullish on Putin.

0:47.1

I think they have this image that Russia is like a white man's paradise for them.

0:50.3

And that's all that they see, how to actually realize what it's like on the ground in Russia itself.

0:55.2

It's all coming up after this.

1:00.5

From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media.

1:03.6

I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:05.2

Since the war in Ukraine began, we've been deluged by content.

1:09.8

We've seen footage of the main TV tower in Kiev smoldering after a missile hit.

1:14.9

But fathers waving goodbye to their children through train windows, civilians huddled in metro stations.

1:21.3

We should note that some pundits were notably more bothered by the tragedy in Ukraine than elsewhere.

1:27.2

This isn't a place with all due respect, like at rock or Afghanistan that has seen conflict raging for decades.

1:35.7

This is a relatively civilized, relatively European.

1:39.4

I have to choose those words carefully too.

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