And all of a sudden Pete wasn't there.

So Pete went on his own and they're like, where's Pete?

So they're all kind of phoning around going, where's Pete gone?

And they're like, Chapo's got him.

Today's guest is Charlie Webster, the host of the hit podcast series Surviving El Chapo,

which she co-created with 50 Cent. Surviving El Chapo is about the Flores brothers,

the twins from Chicago who ended up becoming Choppos' main North American distributors in the mid-2000s.

They were the ones who decided to become informants and were the key witnesses in the trial that

put Choppel away for life.

This is a fascinating story.

She spent years interviewing the brothers for this podcast series,

and she has insight that nobody else has access to, and she's here today.

Without further ado, I give you Charlie Webster of the Surviving El Chapo series

right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell. But the million dollar question is what you asked. It's the question is, was it worth it? Was it worth it? That's when I see the lights behind me start to flash. And I didn't even think. I just hit it. I was driving like my life depended on. And then I parked the car, popped out, closed the door, and I started running. And he pulls out a burner, shang, it's like six inches. And he passes it to me. And he goes, here, that's yours. Don't ever leave the cell block without this. He was the reason I made it out of that place alive. First of all, thank you so much for coming. My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

I want to know, first of all, how a beautiful Australian woman falls into a project like this.

Well, can I just correct you?

Because I'm not Australian.

Sure.

I'm English.

Ah, it was 50-50.

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