Hello everybody I'm Diane Brady. It's my pleasure to be here with sister

Natalie Bekart who is the first female undersecretary in the Vatican's

Cenold of Bishops. Sister Natalie, good to see you.

Thank you. Good evening. It's a pleasure to be with you.

So let me ask, first of all you are based in France and one of the things that fascinated me when you were appointed in 2021 a lot was made of the fact that you would be also the first woman to have a vote in the

C-Nod. Is that to you the real power of the role that you currently have? I would say it has been very symbolic, you know, to be because it's this position that before it was always a bishop and the position gives you to be a member of the Synod of Bishop and to have a vote.

But in our process for the Synod's vote occurs at the end of the process when we have reached a consensus.

So the most important is not so much the vote at the end, the fact that you can be involved from the beginning and at all stages of process.

And what is very interesting now that when I was appointed in a way it has opened the door and I was the first one with this right of boat but at the end for the Synod Assembly we had in October there were also many other women

for the first time who were full member of the Synod so I was not alone and I was with beautiful women who also voted like me and also

other laypeople men who was there. Can I ask, I know that you have been, you've traveled around the world talking to a lot of Catholics,

lay people as well as of course, know nuns bishops etc in the Catholic church

what if you gleaned from this journey in terms of the messages that you're hearing

from people with regard to their relationship

with the church the Vatican etc. Well you know it's a first time in the church history that a Synod is convoked, it's convoked by a Pope,

for the old church, so for all the baptized and even all people of goodwill who would like to contribute to the Catholic Church.

And it has been very moving to see so many people in all continents who have said with this

synods that has opened a process of listening

and consulting all the batteries.

So many people have said, know it's the first time the church is asking

my voice and for many people it was ready the first time they could really speak up and give what they feel or express.

And doing that, they realize that the church is not only the Pope and the bishops or the priests,

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