So this is what is considered to be the very first photograph. This is what is called a heliograph.

It was made by a French scientist named Nesifornieps is of a rooftop. In France, it was taken from his studio window.

I have had an interesting relationship. In France, it was taken from his studio window.

I have had an interesting relationship with this piece

for many years.

I've always been fascinated by it.

I've talked about on the show before.

In fact, back in 2010, I was asked to speak at a tech conference in Paris about the first photograph.

Ted Forbes, who's a fantastic guy that I've learned all about on the internet.

He runs a podcast called The Art of Photography.

Thank you very much.

What was you said?

Rodrigo asked me to prepare a short history of platforms essentially in photography.

Okay, let me stop right here. In case you can't tell, I was extremely nervous.

I'm in a foreign country a long way from my home in Texas and I'm speaking to a mostly English speaking audience.

And I'm up on this panel with several heavyweights,

including Madeline Nicholas, who at that time

was working for Kodak, and this guy, whose name is Jean-Marie Hewlett,

who worked for Steve Jobs, was very good friends, worked for him at Next, and then later came over to Apple, and developed a lot of the early software applications like I-Cal and the early sinking stuff that Mac OSX was doing. So I didn't really know who these people

were. I was pretty nervous. Okay what you're looking at up here this is

actually what is generally considered to be the first photograph. This was a

photograph taken by a gentleman named Joseph Nifor Nephese in southern France in about 1825.

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