On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast, we always say the secret to

living is giving. There's a reason why I've been on a mission to contribute to

others not only to save lives but also to find pain relief. Forget about my

products. I don't want to sell you anything right now. What I want to sell you is

on yourself because if you eat healthy you probably don't need supplementation.

People have been suffering for years. Normally under 30 days these people are

living a normal life pain-free. Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral

living, biohacking, and much more. My name is Ben Greenfield. Welcome to the show.

Well folks you may have heard if you've been listening to the podcast recently

that I went on a trip to San Diego. I always like to travel to areas of the

world where I can find a bunch of kindred spirits and podcasts about all

sorts of interesting things and you know possibly throwing a little ocean and

sun and sand. I won't complain about that and recently I was on a trip to

San Diego and you may have heard an interview that I released during that trip,

one with Navy SEAL Nick Norris and then also one with hydration expert, Tracy

Deuce. When I was there Tracy actually introduced me to a friend of hers named

David Perez. Now I wound up having to have an adenter a couple of times with

David and man we geeked out. We geeked out hardcore. It's kind of stuff that I

wish I had had a podcasting microphone attached to my forehead for because

we were talking about like you know curcumin oids and these fringe

ingredients in the supplements industry. This bright orange compound I'd seen

years back in Finland that he had extracted and and just a fascinating backstory

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