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🗓️ 12 August 2020
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Axios Recap. I'm Naomi Shaven and I'm filling in for Dan this week. |
| 0:07.0 | Today is Wednesday, August 12th. The markets are way, way up, the UK's GDP is down, and we're |
| 0:14.2 | focused on the future of ride sharing. |
| 0:27.8 | On Monday, a California Superior Court judge ruled that Uber and Lyft should classify drivers as employees. |
| 0:33.0 | That would mean giving them paid sick and family leave, health benefits, and more. |
| 0:39.5 | The ride-sharing giants had been arguing that drivers were not part of their core business as technology companies. |
| 0:48.1 | They raised concerns that services could become far more expensive if drivers became employees, and that the drivers might also lose flexibility. |
| 0:53.7 | All the while, these drivers have become essential workers during this pandemic. The crisis has lent |
| 0:55.8 | major urgency to the calls for affordable health insurance and paid sick and family leave. And the |
| 1:01.5 | judge, it seems, was not moved by the idea that the drivers are anything but essential to these |
| 1:07.0 | companies too. The ruling was highly anticipated, as it has huge implications for the |
| 1:11.8 | ride-sharing industry and for the gig economy. And really, it's bigger than that, because these |
| 1:16.8 | modes of transportation and delivery that we have come to take for granted, and it could be argued, |
| 1:22.3 | long undervalued, have changed how people get around and get what they need, and even how |
| 1:27.3 | cities have allocated |
| 1:28.4 | resources for transportation. Both companies plan to appeal the ruling. Uber CEO Dara Kossra |
| 1:35.1 | Shahi has said that if this ruling stands, Uber will have to shut down in California, at least |
| 1:39.7 | temporarily, as it switches to a new employment model. Kastra Shahi, it's worth noting, wrote in an op-ed for the New York Times, published on Monday, |
| 1:48.1 | that he is in favor of granting more benefits to drivers while maintaining the independent contractor status. |
| 1:53.9 | To get a sense of what could come next in this legal battle and how it could start to impact the larger |
| 1:59.0 | gig economy ecosystem. |
| 2:05.9 | We're joined now by Mike Isaac of the New York Times and author of Super Pumped, The Battle for Uber. |
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