Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest. His name is Jimmy Fallon Gong, and he operates the programmed to chill podcast, and you can find it anywhere quality podcasts are found. He also has a very active Patreon page, and I'll put a link to both his podcast and the Patreon page in the show notes.

So you can click through and check those out.

I highly recommend that.

There's very interesting research.

A lot, very different than some of the other podcasts out there.

But today, I came across something on Twitter that he posted that he made available and really caught

my eye and listened to it with great interest.

And it was part of a seven-part series that you can find on Patreon.

But the title of that was the seventh in the series of the seven episodes.

Title of that episode is PTK Smoking Gun, MK Ultra Project 39, Human Ecology Fund,

Psychosurgery, and Ionia State Prison.

But it's based the seven-part series is FBI versus Program to Kill, which is a reference

to the great Dave McDougain's book, Program to Kill.

So I'm delighted to have him on, and he can talk more about his research in the seven-part episode and his other work as well.

So Jimmy Fallon-Ga-Welcome, welcome to the show.

Thanks for agreeing to the interview.

Thank you so much.

I'm a huge fan.

Awesome.

Well, I appreciate it.

So for people may not have heard your name. I know that you've been podcasting for about a year now with great success. You have a lot of episodes, very interesting material. Can you kind of talk about your background and what led you into putting this kind of research together and then specifically the FBI first program to kill Efficient Series.

Yeah, I mean, my whole life I've always done a lot of research,

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