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Witness History

The ‘father of e-books’

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In 1971, an American historical document typed out on a university computer played a vital role in the digital revolution of electronic books. It became the foundation of Project Gutenberg.

Michael Hart, the visionary behind the project, later became known as the ‘father of e-books’.

His close friend, Greg Newby, who was Project Gutenberg’s CEO and director, tells Gill Kearsley how a bike ride to a shop became the unlikely catalyst for a global transformation in how we read and share literature. Greg died shortly after giving this interview.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more. Recent episodes explore everything from the death of Adolf Hitler, the first spacewalk and the making of the movie Jaws, to celebrity tortoise Lonesome George, the Kobe earthquake and the invention of superglue. We look at the lives of some of the most famous leaders, artists, scientists and personalities in history, including: Eva Peron – Argentina’s Evita; President Ronald Reagan and his famous ‘tear down this wall’ speech; Thomas Keneally on why he wrote Schindler’s List; and Jacques Derrida, France’s ‘rock star’ philosopher. You can learn all about fascinating and surprising stories, such as the civil rights swimming protest; the disastrous D-Day rehearsal; and the death of one of the world’s oldest languages.

(Photo: Michael Hart. Credit: Benjamin Stone)

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:07.3

Hello, I'm Kimberly Wilson.

0:09.7

I'm a psychologist, and in my new podcast, Complex, I'll be your guide through all the information

0:15.6

and misinformation that's out there about mental health.

0:19.0

I'm joined by expert guests covering topics

0:21.9

from people pleasing to perfectionism,

0:24.2

burnout to empathy,

0:25.9

to find tangible advice

0:27.3

so we can understand ourselves a little better.

0:30.5

Complex with me, Kimberly Wilson.

0:33.0

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:40.7

Hello. on BBC Sounds. Hello, welcome to witness history with me, Jill Kursley.

0:45.1

If this is already one of your favourite podcasts, then feel free to skip ahead a little bit.

0:49.9

But if you're listening for the very first time, hello and welcome.

0:53.7

We take a look at a moment in history told by the people who were there.

0:57.7

We use incredible archive and hear amazing stories.

1:01.2

New nine-minute episodes drop every weekday.

1:04.7

So if that sounds like your thing, hit subscribe wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

1:09.7

And turn on your notifications so you never miss an episode.

1:15.1

I'm taking you back to 1971 when a well-known piece of American history typed out on a university computer played a vital role in the digital revolution of electronic books.

1:28.7

It was to become known as Project Gutenberg.

1:31.9

I have a wild imagination.

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