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The Daily

The Fate of Boris and Brexit

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2019

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Britain is voting in a general election today. During his re-election campaign, Prime Minister Boris Johnson hitched his re-election campaign to a promise to “get Brexit done” — while selling bankers and blue-collar workers two very different visions for the country. Some hope his promise will mean restoring the United Kingdom to its past glory. But what does it actually mean? Guest: Mark Landler, London bureau chief of The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading:There is growing anxiety among some voters that the prime minister’s vow to complete Brexit could undermine the country’s national health service, a key social safety net. The service is at the center of an election scandal in the final days of the campaign.As Britain prepared for the election, a Times reporter spent two weeks driving from London to Glasgow. He found a country united only by its disunity.With agitations for secession in Scotland and Northern Ireland, our chief correspondent asks: Could completing Brexit spell the end of the United Kingdom as we know it?

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro. This is Daily.

0:09.5

Today, as Britain holds its election, Boris Johnson is appealing to voters who believe

0:16.4

that his promise to get Brexit done will mean we're storing Britain to its past glory.

0:23.0

My colleague, Mark Lander, on what it actually means.

0:32.0

It's Thursday, December 12.

0:37.8

So, Mark, you have been traveling around the UK in the days leading up to this general election.

0:42.4

What is the feeling there?

0:44.9

Well, it's kind of strange, Michael, because on the one hand, this is a monumentally important

0:50.6

election for the British people. And it was called in a very dramatic way back in late October

0:56.7

by Boris Johnson. Yet, as the election has unfolded over the last six weeks, it's felt oddly

1:03.6

anticlimactic. I think some of this has to do with the time of the year. It gets dark really early

1:10.2

in Britain at this time of the year. The weather's also cold. And I think more importantly,

1:15.9

the British people are really in the mood for Christmas. Christmas is just a huge holiday in this

1:21.2

country. And so, I think, for that reason, rather than generating the kind of excitement, which

1:26.8

sort of leads to a peak the way it would in an American election, you sort of have a kind of

1:32.8

a surly electorate that feels like they're being forced to think about these serious issues at a

1:38.0

time when they ought to be decorating their tree and going to their kids. Christmas play.

1:43.1

Right. Nothing says Christmas like a general election. Indeed. And in fact, even from a

1:48.3

logistical point of view, it's potentially problematic because some of the polling places

1:53.9

that you would normally use in a general election are being reserved for Christmas parties,

1:59.5

the activity exhibits, plays, concerts. So even from a purely practical point of view,

2:07.0

it's not the best time of the year to hold an election. But you said that this is, in fact,

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