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🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Protests have broken out in Minneapolis after a US immigration agent shot dead a 37-year-old woman in the city.
Videos posted on social media show the moment of the shooting, in which ICE agents approach a car in the middle of a residential street. As it attempts to drive off, one of the agents points his gun at the driver and at least two shots are heard.
With the Trump administration characterising the incident as “domestic terrorism”, alleging Renee Good had “harassed” officers all day prior to the shooting, the mayor of Minneapolis has labelled this account “bullshit” and called on immigration officers to get out of the city. The governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, is calling for a full investigation but says a fair outcome will be difficult because "people in positions of power" - naming Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem - have "already passed judgement". Walz says they've shared information that he says is "verifiably false" and "inaccurate" and made assumptions about Renee Good's character and actions ahead of the shooting.
In today’s episode, Justin, Sarah and Marianna discuss the reasons why Americans can’t agree on what happened in the videos posted to social media, and reflect on whether the shooting has the capacity to lead to a larger protest movement across the nation. And, as recent polling suggests more Americans are growing dissatisfied with some of the tactics used by ICE, we ask what it would take to change Donald Trump’s mind on his flagship deportations policy.
HOSTS: • Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter • Sarah Smith, North America Editor • Marianna Spring, Social Media Investigations Senior Correspondent
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| 0:00.0 | There's little, I can say, again, that'll make this situation better, but I do have a message for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE. |
| 0:18.1 | To ICE, get the out of Minneapolis. The mayor of Minneapolis, |
| 0:22.9 | Jacob Frey, speaking after a US immigration agent |
| 0:26.6 | shot dead a woman in the city of Minneapolis. The whole thing |
| 0:30.4 | filmed by many, many people. There have been protests |
| 0:34.3 | in that city, more planned across the United States. |
| 0:37.9 | The White House, though, very much pushing back, |
| 0:40.1 | suggesting that the officer was acting in self-defense. |
| 0:44.0 | Who will the public believe? |
| 0:45.4 | What is the politics of this? |
| 0:47.8 | Never mind the horror of the event itself. |
| 0:50.6 | Immigration, remember, got Donald Trump elected. |
| 0:53.8 | Is it now going to lead to his downfall? |
| 0:55.9 | Welcome to AmeriCast. |
| 0:59.7 | AmeriCast from BBC News. When Donald Trump calls, they say, yes, sir. Right away, sir. Happy to lick your |
| 1:07.0 | boot, sir. We are the sickest country in the world. Oh dear. Are you worried that billionaires are going to go hungry? |
| 1:14.0 | Of course the president supports peaceful protest. What a stupid question. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? |
| 1:25.8 | Hello, it's Sarah here in the BBC's Washington Bureau. |
| 1:28.9 | And it's Justin in the worldwide headquarters of AmeriCast in London, England. |
| 1:32.1 | And it is Mariana sitting opposite Justin in the worldwide headquarters of AmeriCast as well. |
| 1:36.9 | And Justin Marianne, I think before we go any further into discussing what the consequences |
| 1:42.0 | of what's happened in Minneapolis are. We should go through |
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