Joel Anderson is with the Ringer Tailgate podcast and the Press Box podcast.

He's with us right now, college football playoff.

The first installment was released last night, but I'm more interested in the fact.

Taylor put down some notes from me here.

He was very excited to have you on, Joel.

He rarely does this,

like prep for an interview because usually I just bullshit my way through these things.

Well, I mean, that's the two guys way. So I mean, yes. But he alerted me to the fact that I don't

know how we quantify this that you were the fastest 10 year old in the country. Is that true?

No, it was. And the way you

quantified is that I got a gift of what I was a certificate from the it's now it's called the

USATF or whatever the US, USA track and field. It was called the athletic Congress back in

1988. Wow. Because I didn't go to the nationals because I went to another nationals and raced in 100 there. And so they just sent me the certificate to say, hey, you ran the fastest 100 time in the country for this year as a 10 year old. It was a 13. Yeah. It was a3, by the way. It was a pretty good time.

That's not bad. So you have a certificate, right? I have the certificate. That makes it valid, I guess, right? I see, the thing is, stupe, man, it's kind of messed up because my coworkers at BuzzFeed about a decade ago, they didn't believe me. And I had to take it to work and I showed it to them and we posted it up in the office just so they would believe me.

And now I can't find it anymore. I was going to ask you to show it to me. So no, so not. So now you got to call up Ben Mathis-Lilley, Logan Rhodes, Matthew Kibis. If you are around, you guys have to confirm for them for everybody that I was the fastest 10-year-old in the country because I tried to prove something to those guys, and now I don't have the evidence anymore.

All right, Taylor, get all of them on the show. All right. This seems flimsy. I have to be honest. I'm telling you, man, I was really good. In the next year, I wasn't the fastest 10-year-old in the country,

but we set a national record in the 400-meter relay, my little team.

So, you know, I was pretty fast back in the day, still. Look at you. Yeah, man. You know, I wasn't a lacrosse demon like you, you know what I'm saying? But I got it in. I did some stuff. Joel, I walked on to the North Carolina football team, and I understand that you played football yourself at TCU.

You were Lidanean Tomlinson's backup in that running back room.

How did your football career end at TCU?

Do you know this story?

Have you heard of you talked about it before?

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