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slash ad-free podcasts to catch up on the latest episodes without the ads. I'm John Batser with Charles Spicer. His book is Coffee with

Charles Spicer. His book is Coffee with Hitler, the Untold Story of

The Amateur Spies who tried to civilize the Nazis.

Loy George met Hitler in September of 36.

It is now the summer of 37 into the fall of 37.

There is no longer an illusion in London that the Nazi regime is

rising to power, both to remilitarize and to brutalize its citizens everywhere, but especially Jewish citizens.

At the same time, the Anglo, the DeG in Berlin, and the Anglo-German Fellowship in London are being penetrated by spies.

And I hardly have time to go very far in these avenues that Charles introduces this to, but the

NKVD is present, MI5 is always watching the fellowship. Also, I must note at this point

that one of the hires of a German speak, a young man from Cambridge who was a

fluent German speaker who has been identified in Cambridge as very left is named

Philby, Kim Philby Charles when I read this part of your book I said this is too much.

I've had to learn the Cambridge Five entirely from the Soviet point of view.

Now I have to learn it from the German point of view. Why was Kim Philby at the Anglo-German

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