You are listening to the Roberta Glass True Crime Report, putting the true back in true crime.

From New York City, Roberta Glass is now on the record.

So thrilled to welcome back today's guest, Martin Prybe.

Pride is a police officer, writer, and author of three books,

Burn Patterns, Crooked City, and The Wagon and Other Stories.

A columnist for the Chicago Contrarian, Pride has been chronicling what he calls the exoneration industry in Chicago

for over a decade. He's a tremendous source of knowledge on this subject and a terrific person.

Welcome Martin Pride. How did you learn about this innocence fraud or how did you wake up to it?

A lot of it started with a, when you become a police officer, on a backtrack, you know,

one of my favorite writers was Gabriel Garcia Marquez, the magical realist writer.

And he was an amazing writer, but he was very far left.

He was friends with Fidel Castro and whatnot.

I remember reading an interview with him where he said that he was living in this small town,

a coastal town, and he had three or four friends with whom he shared an interest in literature,

and they read voraciously many of the great American North American writers like Faulkner and

American writers. And then he lived on this little town and he loved reading these writers,

but he said he tried to write, but he just felt that he had no

correspondence with his own world in Columbia, that everything he was reading and thinking about,

he couldn't find it in his own world in Colombia.

And I remember that passage so much because I always felt a lack of correspondence with Chicago.

And for all the reading I had done in college and whatever education I had tried to obtain.

And so when you become a cop, quite often that feeling intensifies.

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