Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I am Dr. Brett Weinstein and I have the distinct honor and pleasure of sitting this morning with Dr. Michael Bryant and Dr. Johnny Hudson.

Michael Bryant is a professor of history and legal studies at Bryant

University. The overlap between his last name and the last name of the university is pure coincidence.

Dr. Johnny Hudson is a newly minted PhD in Holocaust and Genocide Studies. He also has a bachelor's in history and a

master's degree in Holocaust education.

Gentlemen, welcome to Dark Horse.

Thank you for having me.

Thanks very much for having us.

So this is an episode that I am very excited to be doing. I also have a certain amount of

trepidation because I know that professionals in numerous disciplines have a tremendous amount of unease about the possibility

of looking at genocides in general and the holocaust in particular through an evolutionary

lens. I think we can say we three are all sensitive to those

hazards but believe that on balance there is a high likelihood that our ability to avert genocides will be enhanced if we understand

them in this regard and that it makes sense to engage courageously in this exploration, though ever mindful of the seriousness of the topic.

Is there anything that either of you would like to say about your trepidation

on heading down this path?

So I would I think I would down this

discussion is taking place in the first,

and why it's taking place in the first, like why it's taking place,

why us three are meeting and the context behind

there on the provenance of of us to meeting. Shall I do that now or? Well let me

introduce what from my perspective is the earliest thread here and then maybe you can jump in and pick up the story.

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