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Rational Security

The “Even Stephan” Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were joined by UVA Law Professor Paul Stephan to talk through the close-calls in this week's national security news, including:

  • “Xi’s All That.” Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Beijing this past week, for a long delayed sit-down with President Xi Jinping to try and de-escalate the two superpowers’ tense relationship. Was this meeting a smart move or a giveaway? And what should we make of President Biden calling the Chinese leader a “dictator” shortly after Blinken’s return?
  • “Adverse REPOssession.” The question of what to do with the $300 billion in Russia-related assets frozen by the United States and its allies has reemerged, with members of Congress recently introducing a new version of the REPO Act that would seize those assets and make them available as reparations for Ukraine, among other purposes. Is seizure the right way to handle these assets? What challenges and risks might such a dramatic step encounter?
  • “Robo Joe.” President Biden joined a summit of leaders in the AI industry this week as part of his administration’s ongoing effort to seriously engage the policy challenges raised by AI technology. But what are the realistic prospects for regulation? And what form should it take?

For object lessons, Alan recommended the new Apple comedy “Platonic.” Quinta doubled-down on the TV recommendations with the stage play-turned-movie about leaks in the intelligence community, “Reality.” Scott urged listeners to check out Gil Scott-Heron’s classic 2010 final album “I’m New Here,” and two phenomenal reimaginings: “We’re New Here” by Jamiexx and “We’re New Again” by Makaya McCraven. And Paul recommended the new book “The Lock-Up: A Novel” by John Banville.



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0:00.0

Scott, I am curious, how, how has, uh, what are your best colorblind stories?

0:05.0

Oh, there aren't any good ones.

0:07.0

Uh, most memorable.

0:09.0

Most memorable.

0:10.0

Uh, a playing satellite of Catan and people thinking I was chronically cheating.

0:14.0

Uh, because I couldn't tell all the brown pieces from the green pieces.

0:18.0

Um, that's certainly one, uh,

0:21.0

Cheating on satellite of Catan has a time honored.

0:24.0

Time honored colorblind.

0:25.0

Colorblind.

0:26.0

I did.

0:27.0

I'm not even colorblind.

0:28.0

I just went for it.

0:29.0

Well, I actually had this amazing experience this weekend, which I highly recommend to color

0:33.0

a lot of blind people in the DC area where I went to the National Arboretum, which as I've

0:37.0

said on the podcast before I'm a huge fan and booster of, and went to my favorite exhibit,

0:41.0

which is the dwarf conifers, which I highly recommend.

0:43.0

They're tiny, tiny little pine trees, and it's adorable, and I love them.

0:46.0

And they're fascinating.

0:47.0

But when I look at it, for me, it's like vibrant and all these different colors,

0:52.0

because something about like the grays and browns and greens really popped to me.

0:56.0

My wife was like, no, it's just a bunch of plants.

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