Research that resonates.

Schweitzer has not been wrong on any of his years and years of reporting on the Biden's.

Investigations that matter.

If your last name wasn't Biden, do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of Oism?

I don't know. I don't know. Probably not. But that's, you know, I don't think that there's a lot of things that would have happened in my life that if my last name wasn't Biden. The only entities, the only people that would report on this, and Peter Schweizer, who deserves a medal of freedom, in my view. This is The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer. Hi, this is Peter Schweitzer and welcome to the

Drill Down, where we relentlessly exposed cronyism, corruption, and the abuse of power in Washington,

D.C. I'm joined as always by Eric Eggers, a vice president at the Government Accountability Institute

and an author. He's usually seated by my side,

but he's not here. Where are you, Eric? I am unfortunately staring out into the San Francisco

Bay Water. I'm in Northern California. We get on the road to do research into what we're talking about today

because I am in the electric vehicle capital of the world.

You are.

I felt like I needed to be here today for us to talk about the dirty business of clean energy.

Oh, I love that.

Great, great introduction to our theme today.

And this is often something that people overlook,

which is when a new idea comes along, it can be an attractive idea, a good idea like clean

energy. People never want to talk about the dirty side of that business. And it reminds me of

the old saying from Thomas Sol, the economist, who I consider

as sort of a mentor of mine, Thomas Sol said there are no solutions that are only tradeoffs.

And we're going to talk about those environmental tradeoffs today. A lot of people have discussed

Eric the problems that fossil fuels present for the environment. But today we're going to

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