Hello and Oscar goes to and I can't deny the fact that you like me right now you like me

There's a mistake. Moonlight, you guys won best picture. I'm Katie Rich, the deputy editor of Vanity Fair.com and I'm here with our chief

critic Richard Lawson.

And joining us again for the first time in a while is our Hollywood writer and author of our most

recent cover story on gentlemenay, Johannes dexta.

Hello, thank you so much for bumping that.

Thank you for dating to join us now that you're a cover story. I mean Richard we really had to like drag back into the show after the RuPaul story so.

Drag.

Well now Richard and I are in the same club.

Yeah, well, I'm just going to sit here and I'm just let you guys talk.

This is a cover story only, writers only space.

So anyway, Richard, what was it like for you?

I just loved getting the TR on the sash. That was just like for you? I just loved getting the tiara and the sash.

That was just like the most exciting part.

Isn't it so good?

I love my new tiara.

Do you have to hand it to each of the next ones

or do you get your own tiran sash to keep?

Is that like Miss America?

The real one you have to hand over, but they give you a fake.

Okay, so, Johanna is joining us because she recently interviewed Cheryl Dunier, the director and writer of the Watermelon Woman, a 1996 kind of like low-key

classic that has recently been resurfaced on the Criterion channel. So we'll talk

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