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All right, so Kim, Tall Bear, you are one of the preeminent scholars of the Ochetti-Shakoi nation of people, and also the intellectuals that are alive today.

This is such an honor for me to be interviewing you today

because I read your work, you know, when I was still like a junior scholar

and still in grad school and still in undergrad and I'm so happy that you know when

people encounter like Dakota scholars they're probably most likely to encounter

you and it's kind of in many ways a I think of it as a good kind of

entry point into it because not off like people encounter your work not often through your work on Dakota studies or Dakota people, but your work studying settler society.

So that's me giving platitudes, but maybe you can start just by introducing yourself and like how you became you know who you are today and and where you're at.

Well, so I'm Kim Tallbair.

I'm a citizen of the Sistan Wapton Oyate

in Northeastern,

well, what's Northeastern occupied South Dakota and but I grew up on the Flanders-Antisu

reservation and there's a lot of people related right between Sicitin and

Flanders and Flanders. I was raised by my great-grandmother and my grandmother for the most part. I lived with my mom sometimes.

She was always in the Twin Cities working. My mom was worked on in some of the programs and institutions that the American Indian

movement in part helped found and also urban Indians in Minneapolis and

St. Paul and I'm in St. Paul this week actually. My daughter and I sort of got the heck out of California last week because the air was so bad we were in the Bay Area.

So I'm at home right now in St. Paul and how did I get you know I think I'd never planned on being an academic

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