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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

The emerging economic problems of the next decade (with futurist Kevin Kelly)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Pretend every economic problem we’ve ever discussed on this podcast has magically been solved. What’s next? What are the economic problems that we’ll face a decade from now? This week, Nick and Goldy are joined by futurist Kevin Kelly for a conversation based on a voicemail left by Pitchfork Economics listener Cody from Florida. Thanks, Cody! You can call and leave us a voicemail, too—in fact, we would love it if you did! Our number is (731) 388-9334. Kevin Kelly is Senior Maverick and co-founder at Wired. He has written for The New York Times, The Economist, Science, Time, and The Wall Street Journal among many other publications. His most recent book, The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future, is a New York Times Bestseller. Twitter: @kevin2kelly Further reading: The Inevitable: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9780525428084 Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com/ Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0

Before we get to the show, we wanted to take a second to talk about another podcast that we think you'll like called

0:04.3

Connected and Disaffected about technology and the future of politics. We all know the political status quo is dying.

0:10.3

Well, Connected and Disaffected is digging into what will come next.

0:13.4

Each episode is a feature or interview diving into major trends like online misinformation,

0:17.8

neoliberal economics, and the climate crisis.

0:20.0

Connected and Disaffected tries to get beyond the horse race political coverage to explore the issues that will shape the political and social landscape in years to come.

0:27.8

And they're British and they're in London, so they probably sound better than we do while they do it.

0:31.8

So subscribe to Connected and Disaffected now,

0:34.1

wherever you listen to podcasts.

0:36.6

What do you guys think will be the next economic topic

0:39.2

for or at years from now, and how can we get ahead of those issues?

0:42.6

This really interesting question sort of opens the door to talk about the glorious future

0:47.6

of the economy.

0:48.6

A lot of the things that are on the table are still going to be there in 10 years.

0:52.1

Whenever you solve a problem, you create more problems.

1:00.0

From the offices of Civic Ventures in downtown Seattle, this is Pitch Fork Economics, with Nick Hanauer.

1:07.0

One American capitalist take on how we got into this mess and how we can get out.

1:20.0

I'm Nick Henauer, founder of Civic Ventures. I'm David Goldstein, Senior Fellow at Civic Ventures.

1:27.6

So Goldie, we got this really interesting question

1:30.3

from Cody in Florida. So the Democratic presidential race is already pretty deep and we can obviously tell that the major topic this cycle is money in politics, health care, and of course taxing the wealthy.

1:44.0

If all these things are accomplished, what do you guys think will be the next economic topics

1:50.0

for or at years from now, and how can we get ahead of those issues.

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