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I'm Noah Feldman. I'm speaking to you today, November 4th, 2020, the day after election day in the United States.

Now, I knew all along that the person I wanted to speak to the day after the election was Professor Richard Pildas.

Rick is a professor of constitutional law at New York University School of Law.

He's one of the key figures

in the entire country focusing on how legal issues and democracy interact. He's also an election

analyst for CNN, and when I was a baby professor at NYU, he was an extraordinary mentor to me.

Despite what is an incredibly busy day for Rick,

his true busy season, he made time to speak to us. And we're really grateful for that. Rick, thank you so much for joining me.

It's your busy season every four years as you try to explain election law to your adoring

and terrified public.

So let's just start with the current state of play as of Wednesday at around 1230 p.m. Eastern Standard

Time. What litigation options does Donald Trump have after his 230 a.m. rambling speech where he said he

was, quote, going to the Supreme Court, but didn't exactly explain what he was going to ask for there. Well, the first question is going to be, of course, you know, how small are the

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