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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Education of an Idealist with Samantha Power

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

News, Versant Media, Versant, Ms Now, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2019

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

What was it like to be in the room for some of the most consequential foreign policy decisions of the Obama administration? Samantha Power started as an outsider, a war correspondent who became a voice of moral witness about the failings of the American government. That voice earned her a job in the cabinet of President Barack Obama, helping shape the foreign policy she was once a harsh critic of. Both as a member of the National Security Council, and later as Ambassador to the UN, she had the challenge of addressing her own criticisms within the confines of the job. Now, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author joins to give a rare glimpse into the experience of navigating those halls of power. RELATED READING: The Education of an Idealist by Samantha Power "A Problem From Hell" by Samantha Power

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0:00.0

There's no going back to a world of walls and thick borders and so forth.

0:05.3

We are connected, you know, and in a world in which we are connected,

0:09.6

I think there are reasonable burdens that we can bear in our own interest.

0:13.8

But we have to tell that story in a different way and make it one that people can rally around.

0:23.5

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

0:27.5

So there's this quote by Theodore Roosevelt that you will see very often.

0:31.0

And it is very often deployed by powerful people, like people that work in government or other places.

0:38.4

You'll see it's like their favorite quote.

0:40.1

It's a theater Roosevelt quote from, I think a speech he gave in 1910.

0:43.5

And he says, it is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

0:51.3

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood.

0:58.3

Typically, macho and broni quote from from Teddy Roosevelt.

1:02.4

The reason people in the arena like this quote is because they hate critics.

1:07.1

You know, if you're in politics, people are criticizing you all the time.

1:09.9

If you have a public platform in media, people are criticizing you all the time.

1:13.2

And there's a temptation to be like, well, it's easy to criticize.

1:16.9

It's a lot harder to do.

1:18.4

It's a temptation that I think all of us have felt.

1:20.7

I feel it sometimes people criticize my show like, yeah, easy for you to say like you didn't have to put the show on.

1:26.7

And it's understandable that impulse.

1:28.8

And it's also understandable the kind of tension between folks that are watching people do things and criticizing them from outside.

1:37.6

And the people who have to actually do those things because doing things always requires compromise.

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