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But the climate crisis and the extinction crisis, it has disrupted those cycles of regeneration

for the solid and the stories that tell us that we regenerate that life comes from death.

That being interrupted by death, that's the grief that I find interesting.

That grief, as you said, is not indolent.

Grief is the way to transform it.

It's the way that we can let go and then be open to the mystery,

the open to spirit to really flow through.

And no matter what, the animating principle of life will flow through.

For the wild is honored to present the edges in the middle, a series of conversations

between bio-comalife and thought companions like John A. Powell, V, Naomi Klein, and more.

These limited episodes have been adapted from bio's work as the global senior fellow at UC Berkeley's

othering and belonging institute.

In this role, bio has been holding a series of public conversations on issues of justice and belonging

for the institute's democracy and belonging forum, which connects and resources civic leaders in Europe and the US

who are committed to bridging across differences to strengthen democracy and advance belonging

in both regions and around the world.

Bio's conversations encourage us to rethink justice, hope, and belonging by sitting amidst the noise,

not trying to cover it up with pleasant rhythms.

To learn more about the democracy and belonging forum, visit democracyandbelongingforum.org.

This recording features bio's conversation with celebrated climate activist Naomi Klein,

an indigenous scholar, Dr. Yeria Sellettwin.

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