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The Economist Asks: Marcus Samuelsson

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2020

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

America’s independent restaurants face a future in which half their tables stand empty. Anne McElvoy asks award-winning chef and restaurateur Marcus Samuelsson how restaurants can reinvent their business models to survive. They talk about converting chic eateries into community kitchens in the covid-19 crisis and why he thinks Joe Biden deserves a chance. Also, what does Mr Samuelsson make of racial tensions following the fatal police brutality case in Minnesota? And he takes Anne McElvoy on a culinary tour from chicken stew in his native Ethiopia via Swedish lingonberry vodka to red-velvet cake in Harlem.


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0:00.0

Across America, empty tables are gathering dust.

0:09.8

No more clatter of pans from restaurant kitchens, from Michelin-starred eateries to neighbourhood

0:15.0

pizzerias.

0:16.4

Most of America's independent restaurants employing over 10 million people have been

0:21.2

shutted for weeks.

0:24.1

Even as stay at home orders are lifted, they contemplate a future in which good service

0:28.4

means as little interaction with diners as possible.

0:31.9

Where the numbers of people they can feed in a night is severely reduced, and a future

0:36.1

without sharing plates.

0:38.2

No one looking their fingers, however, tastes you the sauce.

0:43.6

You're listening to The Economist's Ask.

0:45.7

I'm Anne McElvoy, and this week we're asking, how will Covid-19 change the way we eat?

0:53.0

My guest is Marcus Samuelson, born in Ethiopia and raised in Sweden for the last 25 years

0:58.4

he's been a proud New Yorker.

1:01.3

As a bright young thing at Aquavita High End Scandinavian restaurant, he won the James

1:05.6

Beard Award for New York City's best chef.

1:09.1

In search of different flavours, he went on to found his own place, Red Rooster, in the

1:14.0

heart of Harlem, known for reimagining local soul food alongside Swedish classics, so

1:20.5

think cornbread and meatballs with a twist of Ethiopian spice.

1:26.0

He now runs 31 restaurants in eight countries, and he hosts the TV series No Passport Required,

1:32.2

exploring America's many immigrant cuisines.

1:35.7

But the last few months have presented a very different challenge.

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