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Mr Obnoxious

The Economics of AI & Bitcoin Mining with Daniel Roberts - WBD729

Mr Obnoxious

Peter McCormack

Technology, News, Politics, Money, Investing, Finance, Bitcoin

4.82.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Daniel Roberts is the co-founder of Iris Energy. In this interview, we discuss misconceptions about energy consumption in Bitcoin mining and the resultant impact on the value and perception of Bitcoin. We also talk about Iris Energy's commitment to using 100% renewable energy, Bitcoin mining stabilizing the energy grid in Texas, the downside protection of low-cost Bitcoin mining, the challenges of scaling Bitcoin mining, and the correlation between Bitcoin mining and AI.

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Iris Energy is Australia’s largest homegrown Bitcoin miner, and full disclosure, the lead sponsor of What Bitcoin Did. It is an unabashed advocate of decarbonisation, with a commitment to power its operations using 100% renewable energy. It is one of the market leaders in targeting under-utilised renewable energy sources. And, whilst its core business is Bitcoin mining, the company is expanding its next-generation data centres to target the generative AI market.

Despite the proven positive contribution to supporting energy grids, mitigating climate change and supporting communities with well-paying professional jobs, Bitcoin mining FUD is still affecting the perception of the industry within influential groups. With Iris Energy’s co-founder Daniel Roberts, we discuss the common misconceptions of Bitcoin mining’s energy consumption, and why these misunderstandings still gain traction in the media.

We talked about the challenges of scaling Bitcoin mining: mining companies like Iris have to manage the physical limitations of increasing power consumption and the difficulty of developing large-scale energy infrastructure. They also have to hedge against price volatility. However, Daniel explains how low-cost miners have a unique downside protection that further incentivises the drive to exploit cheap energy sources.

The podcast also covers Iris’s expansion into supporting demand for AI computation. Daniel explains the correlation between the needs for Bitcoin mining and AI, and how their approach is not solely focused on Bitcoin mining but rather on building power-dense data centres optimized for various digital demand drivers. This means the competitive advantage in the industry has shifted from chip manufacturers to those who can build large-scale infrastructure businesses.

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Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-economics-of-ai-bitcoin-mining

This episode’s sponsors:
Iris Energy - Bitcoin Mining. Done Sustainably
Bitcasino - The Future of Gaming is here
Ledger - State of the art Bitcoin hardware wallet
Wasabi Wallet - Privacy by default
Unchained - Secure your bitcoin with confidence
OrangePillApp - Stack Friends Who Stack Sats

Transcript

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If you want to keep pushing more renewables onto the grid in the absence of a

0:08.5

pricing or in the absence of underlying demand, there's only one group that pays for that. It's the taxpayer.

0:14.7

Hello there, happy Monday. I hope you're all doing well. Right, if you didn't see it,

0:19.9

Danny and I announce a cheat code last week.

0:22.8

Our conference is going to be held in Bedford next year,

0:25.4

April 12th and 13th.

0:27.6

We're doing things a little bit differently.

0:29.7

We're doing one day a conference,

0:31.0

but the second day where you're all hung over we're going to

0:33.1

be doing football we're going to take you all down to McMillan Park to watch rail

0:36.0

Bedford to see our cheat code in action and you know what with our ladies

0:39.8

team top of the league they've won every game the men's team they can go top of the

0:43.4

league if they win tomorrow actually on my birthday and with Bitcoin looking

0:46.9

strong and a Harvard in place in April it looks like it might be some

0:50.5

special events so hopefully we'll see some of you there. If you want to get a

0:53.9

ticket please head over to cheatco.co. UK. Anyway welcome to the What Bitcoin did

0:58.2

podcast which is brought to by the legends at Iris Energy, the largest NASDAQ listed

1:02.4

Bitcoin miner using 100% renewable energy.

1:05.2

I'm here's Peter McCormack and today I've actually got Iris Energy co CEO Dan Roberts on the show.

1:11.5

Now first met Dan earlier this year in Canada. Me and

1:15.0

Danny went out to meet the guys. We were discussing them becoming a sponsor and we

1:18.6

were really intrigued by their takes on mining. We really like the company's

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