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The New Yorker Radio Hour

The Economic Fallout of COVID-19; plus Mike Birbiglia, and Chika

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

As of the end of April, thirty million people have filed for unemployment as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. Yet many believe that this is only the first stage or initial shock of the financial system’s abrupt halt. “It’s more like a heart attack than the Great Depression,” John Cassidy explains. He speaks with David Remnick about the ways that this crisis could play out, and when and how the economy could bounce back. Plus, we meet Chika, a rapper who was hailed by P. Diddy as “best of the new school.” And Mike Birbiglia imagines his ideal death.

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0:00.0

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:10.0

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. No one living has ever seen anything

0:15.2

quite like what's happening to our economy now. Tens of millions of Americans have filed for

0:20.3

unemployment in just a matter of

0:21.8

weeks. Millions more can't even get through the systems to file. We don't know how many workers

0:27.2

have been furloughed or had their hours cut. And there's already concerned that the multi-trillion

0:32.1

dollar relief package won't be enough to tide us over to the other side of this pandemic,

0:36.9

whenever that comes.

0:38.3

The pain is just enormous, and the brunt of it is being borne by those who didn't have much

0:43.3

of a cushion to begin with. To make sense of where things are headed, last week I called up John

0:48.3

Cassidy, who covers economics and politics for the New Yorker. John, we're hearing so many

0:53.4

dire statistics about the economy. Before we

0:55.8

dive into them, how would you differentiate between the Great Depression and the way that

1:03.7

began and the way it stuck around for years and what we seem to be entering here during this coronavirus economic crisis.

1:14.4

Yeah, that's a very good question. I mean, they are very different. They're similar in that

1:18.4

their huge, you know, the just huge downturns. But the Great Depression, the stock market crash

1:24.5

was in October 1929, and unemployment didn't peak until 1933 at about 25%.

1:31.1

So it was a gradual process, whereas what we've seen here is just a sudden stop to the economy.

1:37.4

So it's more like a heart attack than the Great Depression.

1:42.8

We've just said, bang, stop, not everything, but a lot of things.

1:47.7

And we've imposed these enormous restrictions on the economy,

1:53.0

but on the other side, these equally enormous rescue programs

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