Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher.

And I'm Scott Galloway. Scott, did you watch Obama's commencement speech? It felt like we had

our president, any president who could give a speech without, you know, referring to Independence Day

back. What did you think about that? I thought it was interesting that he's sort of crossing the line

that most presidents don't cross, and that is he is in his own Obama-esque way. He's going after

the president, and typically former presidents have sort of a, you know, an unwritten pact with each

other that they don't. They're not critical of previous presidents or administrations, and he's

clearly, when he says, you know, these people aren't even pretending that they're in charge,

it's pretty clear who he is talking about. But in general, I thought it was really,

it was really moved by the whole thing. Did you watch it? Yeah, I did. Yeah, it was great. I was

a great speech. You know, it was funny because it was that Independence Day thing that they put

Trump's hat on, which was so cheesy and ridiculous. And I liked Independence Day. I had some

movie I've seen a lot of times. It's, it was interesting. I was just, it was an interesting move. I

know, I think this idea of previous presidents, he's attacked Obama so drastically. I don't, I feel

like gloves off is fine on this one, because not just Obama gate, which is the most recent thing,

but it's constant and persistent and incredibly disrespectful. You're not supposed to,

also, it's all previous presidents this way, but this is all that's happening. You know what I mean?

So I just, to saying we didn't do this before is not an excuse for anything at all anymore. But

it was interesting that it went on all the networks. It was all over social media. It was very calculated.

And I thought very deft way of getting across that speech. I thought it was, you know, the same kind

of stuff. I think the Trump campaign is quite good about getting messages out, not as sharp as they've

been. Maybe I haven't seen the bowels of Facebook, but I'm talking about the sort of larger ones.

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