Welcome to Defense Diaries.

I am your host Bob Mata and I am joining Welcome to Defense Diaries.

I am your host, Bob Mata, and I am joined by my beautiful and brilliant co-host, Allie.

What is up, girl?

Hey, babe.

Hey, all.

Okay, so we have been waiting patiently for these interviews as we are continuing our coverage of the Richard Allen case.

As you know, we have been covering this case for a couple of years since the date of arrest of Richard Allen.

We have covered it pretty thoroughly in terms of the legal process all the way up and through trial.

And it is one of those cases that has been very polarizing out in kind of the true crime world,

out in the trial observers world. It's been controversial in a lot of different ways. So we are very,

very excited for the next three nights where we are going to be having a brethren of ours,

fellow defense attorneys, the ones who tried this case back in October and November of this

year. And we're going to get into as much as we can.

And as much time as Jennifer is willing to give to us, which we'll find out, I guess, tonight.

But let me, let me bring her on.

Before, okay. Oh, sorry, sorry, babe.

Jennifer Ogey, what's up, girl?

How are you?

Hey, I'm good.

How are you?

It's good to see you again.

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