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The Divine Debate: Is Morality Rooted in God? Atheist Stephen Law vs Matthew Su hosted by Ruth Jackson

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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🌟 Is faith necessary for a moral life? 🌟 Is belief in God essential for a meaningful moral framework? Or can secular philosophy give us all the answers? 🤔 This week on Unbelievable?, host Ruth Jackson 🎙️ welcomes two dynamic thinkers to explore one of the most profound debates: the role of God in shaping our moral universe. 🌌✨ Recorded live at Waddesdon School, UK with Aylesbury Vale Youth for Christ, this episode promises to challenge everything you thought you knew about faith and philosophy. 🙌 👤 British philosopher at Oxford University, Stephen Law, creator of the famous "Evil God Challenge," isn’t afraid to question the existence of a benevolent deity in a world full of suffering. Is God really all-good, or could an “evil god” be just as plausible? 😱💡 👤 Joining him is Christian scholar from Cambridge University, Matthew Su, whose perspective celebrates life as a gift from a loving creator. For Matthew, God not only grounds morality but gives life ultimate meaning and purpose. 🌱💖 🔥 This episode tackles the biggest questions: Why would a good God allow suffering? Is morality possible without divine authority? And can secular ethics truly guide humanity? 🧠💬 🎧 Don’t miss this clash of worldviews, where belief meets scepticism. Get ready to have your beliefs challenged! 💥👇 #UnbelievablePodcast #GodVsMorality #FaithAndPhilosophy #Debate Additional shows to watch The Good God vs. Evil God Debate: Max Baker-Hytch vs Asha Lancaster-Thomas host Vince Vitale : watch here / https://youtu.be/LXY9DJlP5Gs?si=l-JXMB8InPhaUnz_ #debate #evilgodchallenge #philosophy #philosophyofreligion #theism #atheism #evil #goodgod 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0

Mercy ships would like to give you some good news as we bring hope and healing to those in need.

0:08.0

Dr David Chong is a volunteer reconstructive plastic surgeon from Australia.

0:14.0

So you come to a place like Senegal and you meet someone who's got an unrepaired cleft lip and it's just like,

0:21.6

how did this happen?

0:22.6

When I met Samba, what particularly struck me about him was that he had this intrinsic sense of self-worth,

0:28.6

despite everything that he'd been through, he was so engaging.

0:32.6

This guy's been sitting around for 55 years waiting for someone to come along and help him with his lip,

0:39.6

or maybe even never imagining it could have happened.

0:43.3

By one year of age, most clefts lips will have been repaired.

0:46.6

With his personality in particular, he can now be him.

0:51.5

For more inspiring stories, go to mercyships.org.uk slash premiere. If there is a God,

1:01.6

and he is all-powerful and supremely benevolent, it may be that God will allow some suffering

1:07.6

if there's a good reason for it, but not otherwise. It's not going to allow pointless or if you're like gratuitous suffering.

1:13.6

But the problem now is that when we look at the world, it's absolutely, I mean there's a lot of good stuff in it, no doubt.

1:19.6

Because boy, is there a lot of suffering.

1:21.6

The kind of philosophical belief that I have in God, even prior to my being a Christian,

1:25.6

leads me to believe that fundamentally

1:28.6

existence itself is a good gift from a good God. Believing in God imposes that kind of value

1:35.4

structure upon reality. Why is there something rather than absolute nothing? I'm not sure I can even make

1:41.0

sense of the idea of absolute nothing.

1:44.6

No one should be deferring passively to some book.

1:47.8

You all have a responsibility to think for yourselves and make your own moral judgment.

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