The Disciples: 4. Daddy’s calling
World of Secrets
BBC
4.7 • 765 Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2024
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Namibian teenager Jessica gives up everything to join prophet TB Joshua in Lagos. She is taken to a special place, where the church was born, now transformed from a swamp into a lake, with islands and a helipad. As one of a privileged few, she sees strange rituals with swords, crosses and photographs. Back in the church compound, disciples are encouraged to call TB Joshua “Daddy”. Then, Anneka tries to escape. Hosts Charlie Northcott and Yemisi Adegoke unravel a story of miracles, faith and manipulation, carried out by one of the most powerful religious figures of the century.
Please note, this season of World of Secrets contains graphic descriptions of sexual and physical violence, including sexual assault, rape and the language associated with it.
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Presenters: Charlie Northcott and Yemisi Adegoke Series Producer: Rob Byrne Series Editor: Philip Sellars Executive Producer: Georgia Catt Commissioning Editor: Jon Manel
This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Eye Investigations, with original investigation by Charlie Northcott and Helen Spooner.
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Annie Matt Manus and my name is Nick Grimshaw. How long have we known each other babe? |
| 0:05.1 | Probably 20 years now and in that time we've always worked in and around music right? |
| 0:10.6 | We have. So it kind of makes sense that we do a podcast better. |
| 0:13.4 | It sounds like he's been 20 years in the making. It's not a avatar for podcasts, basically, |
| 0:17.6 | but it is good. So we put the world to rights with regards to music. |
| 0:21.5 | It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. rights with the music. |
| 0:24.0 | It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. |
| 0:25.0 | Sidetracked with us, Annie and Nick. |
| 0:27.0 | Listen on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:30.0 | Before we start, |
| 0:31.0 | some episodes in this series of World of Secrets contain graphic descriptions |
| 0:35.8 | of sexual and physical violence, including sexual assault, rape, and the language associated |
| 0:41.5 | with it. As if anyone asks us where we're going, just say we're lost. |
| 0:51.0 | We're in Lagos, Nigeria, scoping out the original site of T.B. Joshua's Church, known as Prayer Mountain. |
| 1:00.0 | Like the church compound 10 minutes away, it's difficult to see what exactly is going on behind the giant walls. |
| 1:07.0 | It's a little tricky to tell which way to go at it from because there's security outposts |
| 1:16.3 | all along the wall CCTV cameras the wall itself is about 20 foot high. |
| 1:23.0 | When you look at Lagos on Google Maps, it's a sea of dense housing, |
| 1:27.0 | one of the most populated cities in the world. |
| 1:30.0 | And the prayer mountains sits right in the heart of one of the busiest areas. |
| 1:34.4 | It's not actually a mountain. |
| 1:36.4 | It's a huge lake dotted with islands, |
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