The Disciples: 2. The prophet
World of Secrets
BBC
4.7 • 765 Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2024
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
The myths around Nigerian pastor TB Joshua draw young disciples into his web. His miracles go viral, bringing thousands more followers, hoping to be healed. Chosen ones, like Rae and Anneka, are invited to his Lagos church, with the coveted chance of becoming his disciples. Hosts Charlie Northcott and Yemisi Adegoke unravel a story of miracles, faith and manipulation, carried out by one of the most powerful religious figures of the century.
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Audio for this episode was updated on 8th January 2024
Presenters: Charlie Northcott and Yemisi Adegoke Series Producer: Rob Byrne Series Editor: Philip Sellars Executive Producer: Georgia Catt Commissioning Editor: Jon Manel
This podcast is made in collaboration with BBC Eye Investigations, with original investigation by Charlie Northcott and Helen Spooner.
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| 0:00.0 | My name is Annie Matt Manus and my name is Nick Grimshaw. How long have we known each other babe? |
| 0:05.1 | Probably 20 years now and in that time we've always worked in and around music right? |
| 0:10.6 | We have. So it kind of makes sense that we do a podcast better. |
| 0:13.4 | It sounds like he's been 20 years in the making. It's not a avatar for podcasts, basically, |
| 0:17.6 | but it is good. So we put the world to rights with regards to music. |
| 0:21.5 | It's all the stuff that you'd want to chat to your mate about over a pint. rights with we start some episodes in this series of World of Secrets contain graphic |
| 0:34.9 | descriptions of sexual and physical violence including sexual assault |
| 0:38.9 | rape and the language associated with it. |
| 0:45.0 | Amen! |
| 0:48.0 | But I don't know where to start. We're watching a grainy video from 1989. |
| 0:52.0 | A young man with a beard is standing in a wooden house with |
| 0:56.3 | bamboo pillars and Raffia Palm leaves for its roof. He's smiling and laughing joking with a small crowd of people staring at him intently. |
| 1:08.2 | This is the man in the white robes, the man that would convince Ray and Anaka, young women from England, to give up their lives and devote themselves to him. |
| 1:20.0 | Today, we start to go up here. him. |
| 1:23.0 | And he has just founded the synagogue church of all nations in Lagos, Nigeria. |
| 1:26.0 | He wanted to be the synagogue church of all nations in Lagos, Nigeria. |
| 1:32.0 | He wanted to be the biggest, best, the most important, most adored, |
| 1:37.6 | acknowledged pastor in the world. That's Ray, the person I met in a pub in England with her friend Anika. In that pub, Ray told me |
| 1:47.4 | disturbing things about the man laughing and joking in the video, The man in the white robes. Stories from Lagos, so strange that they were hard to believe. |
| 2:00.0 | You tried the police, you tried the media multiple times, you'd gone to Interpol, |
| 2:05.7 | it was not like we were the first choice. |
| 2:08.2 | Honestly, the number of times I tried to reach out, and I just wasn't listened to and the crux of why I wasn't |
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