The Dinner Where It Happened (1790)

This Day in Esoteric Political History

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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🗓️ 21 June 2022

⏱️ 17 minutes

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It’s June 21st. This day in 1790, in lower Manhattan, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison sit down in a meeting brokered by Thomas Jefferson to work out a major compromise involving the Treasury department and the location of the US Capitol.

Jody, Niki and Kellie discuss the meeting, the myths around it, and how it was ultimately a major test of a new democracy in action.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to this day in esoteric political history from Radiotopia.
0:06.7	My name is Jody Avergan.
0:08.8	This day, this evening I guess, Juneth 1790 it's the dinner table compromise
0:16.2	between James Madison and Alexander Hamilton convened by Thomas Jefferson.
0:21.0	This was a consequential meeting that took place on Maiden Lane in New York,
0:25.3	brokered by Jefferson to bring the two former friends and now definitely political rivals together to discuss a few key issues that the
0:35.1	brand new country was facing and were kind of threatening to sort of grind the
0:39.1	new government to a halt and there are lots of myths and facts about this meeting and I want to get a couple out of the way right now
0:46.1	I don't think we know what they ate and in fact it may not have been a dinner meeting at all
0:51.5	It may have just been a get together but it is called
0:53.6	the dinner meeting and so I went on yelp and I looked at restaurants that are currently
0:57.2	on Mating Lane and so there's a five guys there's a pot belly there's a just salad. I don't know if those were around in
1:04.5	1790, but we can imagine.
1:06.5	Certainly just salad.
1:07.5	Just salad, do you think? I was thinking, well, unfortunately, it's three guys, not five guys.
1:12.6	That would be appropriate, but there were probably pot bellies.
1:15.6	And there certainly were pot bellies, yeah.
1:16.6	Exactly.
1:17.6	But listeners, use your imagination about this dinner, but here to talk about what we actually
1:22.1	know about this dinner compromise are as always
1:24.4	Nicole Hammer of Columbia and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wesley. Hello there.
1:28.8	Hey dirty.
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