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Sinica Podcast

The delights of cooking Chinese food: A conversation with chef and author Fuchsia Dunlop

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8 • 676 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2016

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the Sinica Podcast, Kaiser and Jeremy talk to Fuchsia about her time at the Sichuan Higher Institute of Cuisine, how she chooses recipes for her books and the gamut of flavors of Chinese cuisine. "You both want to challenge people and give people dishes that they don’t necessarily know, but also to offer them things that are doable and that are palatable," says Fuchsia Dunlop, a British writer who has won a cult following with her recipe books of Chinese food. Fuchsia’s 2013 book, Every Grain of Rice: Simple Chinese Home Cooking, won the 2014 James Beard Award for an international cookbook. The renowned culinary organization also recognized much of her other work, which includes more books as well as articles featured in publications such as Lucky Peach, The New Yorker and the Financial Times. In addition, Fuchsia has appeared on Anthony Bourdain’s Parts Unknown, CNN’s On China and NPR’s All Things Considered, consults on Chinese cooking for major companies and gives speeches around the world. For someone who described her relationship with Chinese cuisine as one that began fortuitously, it is an impressive list of accomplishments. As the first foreign student at the Sichuan Higher Institute of Cuisine, Fuchsia studied the regional cooking style along with about 50 other students, only two of whom were women. She remembers the gender dynamics of that experience, as well as the slow transition of her classmates toward calling her by her name rather than laowai, the Chinese slang word for foreigner. Fuchsia’s latest book, Land of Fish and Rice: Recipes from the Culinary Heart of China, delves into the cuisine of Jiangnan. It’s a region whose flavors she loves just as much as those of Sichuan, which she also has written about. Relevant links: Appetite for China: The website of Diana Kuan, writer, cooking teacher and author of The Chinese Takeout Cookbook. The Cleaver Quarterly: A publication that "covers Chinese cuisine as a global phenomenon and a lifelong mission." Travel China Guide: Eight Cuisines of China - Shandong & Guangdong. Recommendations: Jeremy: Ximalaya, an app for listening to audio content in Chinese. Kaiser: No-knead bread. Fuchsia: A Chinese cleaver. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cynica podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China produced in partnership with SubChina.

0:15.3

Subscribe to SubChina's daily email newsletter or download the handy app to keep current in just a few minutes a day with the latest

0:21.8

business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. I'm Kaiser

0:26.6

Gual, coming to you today from the Seneca South studio in downtown Durham, North Carolina. I'm

0:31.6

joined from Nashville, Tennessee by deposed Panamanian strongman Jeremy Goldcorn. How are you this

0:36.9

fine autumn day, Jeremy?

0:38.1

I'm doing very well.

0:39.0

Or can you not experience much weather in that supermax facility.

0:42.6

Oh, and pity you can't join me in Chapel Hill for Thanksgiving this year.

0:45.8

Yeah, that is the only reason.

0:47.2

Maximum security guards are the only things that could keep me away from your Thanksgiving dinner, Kaiser.

0:52.0

And that's a great place to actually introduce our topic for today,

0:55.8

because the Western holiday season is here to be followed shortly afterwards by Chinese New Year

1:00.9

and all the feasting it entails.

1:03.4

So we're delighted today to be joined by a luminary from the world of Chinese food.

1:10.1

Fuchsia Dunlop was the first westerner to train as a chef at the Sichuan Institute of Higher

1:14.7

Cuisine in Chengdu in Sichuan province.

1:17.0

She's worked as a journalist and chef.

1:19.1

She's the author of a tower of highly praised and award-winning books about food and recipes,

1:23.9

including Sichuan cookery, Land of plenty, revolutionary Chinese cookbook,

1:28.7

Sharksfin and Sichuan pepper, a sweet, sour memoir of eating in China, every grain of rice,

1:34.0

and the just published land of fish and rice recipes from the culinary heart of China.

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