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Hello and welcome to another bonus episode of the new abnormal and we thank you so much for being here today

We have author and essayist Steven March and he's gonna talk to us all about his new book the next civil war

Dispatches from the American future

Welcome to new abnormal Steven March pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me

So I started reading your book explained to us how you got here

I was reporting on the Trump inauguration and it wasn't you know

I was never a sort of political reporter or anything like that but that I was like okay

Well, let's go into middle America. Let's go and meet

Both keepers and let's go to Ohio and go to prepper conventions and then see what they're like and I do get along quite well with

Far-right people and they talk to me and they have no problem talking to me

So that seemed like something that I could offer and then also just trying to put together the pieces of of where it's going and

What if you see when you were there? Well, I saw a complete lack of faith in the political system and

A sense of loss and also a mess Iannic kind of conception of freedom like a

You don't hear people talk and they talk about property tax as a form of slavery and it you know as a Canadian

Of course property tax is a form of slavery

Yeah, they're like you don't own your body because if you don't pay your property tax then they'll take away your house

And you'll starve to death that would be nothing and of course conspiracy theory is really elaborate conspiracy theories and a lot of guns a

Worship of guns and and so you know, yeah, that's that's really what I saw and of course

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