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Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

THE DEATH OF SCIENCE: Trump's Project 2025: Up Close and Personal. Chapter Three

Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Resolute Square

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.93.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This special series is a joint production by David Pepper and Resolute Square. The book, “Trump’s Project 2025: Up Close And Personal” by David Pepper, is available for purchase at https://a.co/d/adWcJ4S. To start, special guest host Stuart Stevens weighs in on day one of the confirmation hearings and the abomination that is the slate of nominees Trump has put forward for some of the most important positions in the Executive Branch. In Chapter 3, the fact-based fictional story of Dr. Yvette Hardman and JJ Newsom depicts the dismantling of expertise and science-based decision making in the federal government under a possible second Trump administration guided by Project 2025. Dr. Hardman, an experienced infectious disease expert, is removed from her position at the CDC and replaced by JJ Newsom, an unqualified political loyalist with no relevant experience. This reflects Project 2025's plan to fill government positions with partisan appointees rather than nonpartisan experts. The new administration rejects science-based pandemic response recommendations from Dr. Hardman instead prioritizing political and economic considerations over public health. This aligns with Project 2025's directives to limit the CDC's ability to make public health recommendations. The story highlights the Trump administration's hostility towards science and the displacement of experienced civil servants, which Project 2025 seeks to accelerate through measures like the "Schedule F" executive order to reclassify and fire federal employees. Overall, the narrative illustrates how a second Trump term guided by Project 2025 would undermine the role of expertise and independent scientific advice in government, with potentially disastrous consequences for public health and safety. Trump’s Project 2025: Up Close and Personal is available on all the podcast apps and at 2025pod.com. We'd also like to thank all the artists who volunteered their time to make this episode: CCH Pounder, Richard Schiff and Jason Kravits who read the chapters and Omid Abtahi, Tom Nichols, Laurie Burke and Joanne Carducci who did the voices. Sound design by Marilys Ernst and Jon Moser. Trump's Project 2025: Up Close and Personal was written by David Pepper and produced by Pepper, Melissa Jo Peltier and Jay Feldman and is a production of Ovington Avenue Productions and The Bill Press Pod. Follow Resolute Square: Instagram Twitter TikTok Find out more at Resolute Square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There was also maintained what was called an enemy's list, which was rather extensive and continually being updated.

0:14.0

Democrats want Republicans dead.

0:19.0

Where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

0:26.6

The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortion.

0:34.6

On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting.

0:41.8

No, it's not a right-way conspiracy.

0:43.4

You're not Q it on. It's real.

0:47.0

I'm Rick Wilson, and this is the enemies list.

0:53.0

Hi, everyone. I'm Stuart Stevens, filling in today for the under-the-weather road warrior

0:58.1

Rick Wilson. Rick, take care and feel better, man. Today on the enemy's list is the third

1:04.3

episode of David Pepper's incredible creation, Trump's Project 2025, up close and personal.

1:12.2

The special 12-episode series is a joint David Pepper and Resolute Square production.

1:17.3

Today's issue, The Death of Science, envisions what would happen if another pandemic broke out during Trump's second term.

1:24.4

We know how horribly you handle the first, and with incompetence like RFK Jr.

1:28.4

nominated to run HHS, there is every reason to believe pandemic 2.0 would be far worse.

1:35.1

The confirmation hearings for Trump's nominees kicked off yesterday with the spectacularly

1:40.2

unqualified Pete Higgsip for Secretary of Defense. HECS has been credibly accused of sexual assault, alcohol abuse on the job,

1:48.3

financial mismanagement, and even his own mothers called him out for his treatment of women,

1:53.4

including his own wife.

1:55.1

He has never successfully run anything.

1:57.6

His misogyny has been on display in his own words dating back to 2012 when he first began

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