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🗓️ 16 September 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | In the next 1,000 days, AI will not only replace a startling number of humans in the workforce, |
| 0:06.0 | it will make the entire structure of our economy obsolete. |
| 0:11.0 | That is the unnerving claim of today's guest, Imod Mostak. |
| 0:15.0 | As a former hedge fund manager and the man behind one of the most used AI models on planet Earth, stable diffusion, |
| 0:21.6 | he's got the credibility to back up the claim. |
| 0:24.6 | In today's episode, Emod lays out how our current economy will die |
| 0:28.6 | and what an AI-driven final economy will look like. |
| 0:32.6 | We talk about the ridiculousness of GDP as a measure |
| 0:36.6 | in a post-scarcity world, the role of humans moving |
| 0:40.0 | forward, their expected negative value compared to AI, and how we can still thrive financially |
| 0:46.7 | and emotionally in this transition period. Massive disruption is guaranteed, but if EMOD can be |
| 0:54.0 | believed, we've got the mathematics. |
| 0:56.2 | We need to understand how the future is going to unfold. |
| 0:59.7 | So without further ado, I bring you EMOD MOSTAC. |
| 1:06.5 | You've written a book called The Last Economy about how AI is going to radically change how the world works, |
| 1:13.4 | the economy works. So what exactly is the last economy? So the last economy is basically |
| 1:20.8 | looking at what happens when the AI gets smarter than us and starts displacing our work, |
| 1:26.1 | starts displacing our meaning and more. |
| 1:28.3 | And can our existing economics keep up with that? |
| 1:32.3 | We've gone through multiple transitions over time that we'll talk in a bit, but we've never |
| 1:37.5 | had this cognition transition where all of a sudden you've got AIs that are more smarter |
| 1:42.7 | and more capable than you're robots that can do more than you can physically. And so I was like, what does economics look like from the start? And what does our economy itself look like? How does capital get distributed? What is the nature of money? You know, what are our jobs of the future? The things we've been talking about for a long time, I was like, let's put it all together and try and create a framework for that. |
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