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Worklife with Adam Grant

The dangers of identity capitalism with Jia Tolentino

Worklife with Adam Grant

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4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In this season of WorkLife, we’re pairing each of our regular episodes with a companion interview to do a deeper dive into the topic. This is the deeper dive for our episode on the case against personal branding. Jia Tolentino is a writer at The New Yorker, screenwriter, and author of Trick Mirror—as a lauded culture critic, she’s a keen observer (and occasional victim) of the pressures we all face to brand ourselves online. Jia and Adam discuss the dark side of self-surveillance, the dangers of identity capitalism, and the routes to greater authenticity.


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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Jia Tolentino (Instagram: @jiatortellini | Website: jia.blog/


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