So how's everybody feeling? I'm on the road this week, which listeners might notice, but I feel

okay. I feel good. Lauren, how do you feel? I'm doing good, actually. I'm feeling better than I've

been feeling in months. Wow. Somehow, some way. I am not on the road. I think maybe that's why.

I've had a long bout without travel. Katie, I thought you were going to say that after you came back from France and you developed this new French butter habit, you were feeling better than ever before. I mean, I do. The butter is so life-affirming. I've been eating a lot of French butter. And I feel great. I feel incredible. Amazing. Did you run five miles this morning? I ran seven miles this morning.

Sorry.

Seven?

Yeah.

Wow.

I have run zero miles in the last month. No, no, that's not true. In the last two weeks, we did. Yeah. It's an important part of my health routine, and when I don't do it, I definitely feel. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Today we are going to be talking about our health and not just our own health, but the health of all Americans, because it has been on everybody's mind lately.

Here at Wired, we've been reporting on the current administration's dismantling of the public health agencies and defunding of research programs.

We've tracked all the ways that Elon Musk and his Doge cohort have been hoovering up all of our sensitive health data and the sensitive health data of millions of Americans without offering

a clear explanation of why they're doing it.

And we've been watching the shifting culture around vaccines in America and changing attitudes about what the government's role should be in our collective well-being.

So on this episode, we're going to talk about all of that.

We'll talk about the measles outbreak.

We'll talk about all of the other health crises that we really thought we would never have to talk about anymore.

But it won't be all heavy stuff.

I'm sure we will find a way at some point to have some fun in this show. We just had fun. Like 30 seconds ago, we were having fun. Can we just go back to talking about butter and running? We'll have fun again. We will have fun. We promise. This is Wired's Uncanny Valley, a show about the people, power, and influence of Silicon Valley.

I'm Michael Collori, Director of Consumer Tech and Culture here at Wired.

I'm Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired.

And I'm Katie Dremand, Wired's Global Editorial Director. So let's start by talking about the measles outbreak.

And oddly, this is not the first time that we've brought up measles on Uncanny Valley,

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