The Dam is About to Break
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
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🗓️ 4 October 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by Lincoln Project Senior Advisor Jeff Timmer to discuss the recent trend of more and more GOP leaders publicly giving their support for Democratic candidates in the upcoming midterm elections, two permission structures (one for the pro-democracy coalition and one for Trump/ultra-maga followers), and how even if Democrats win in 2022 and 2024 it will not be the end of our nation’s fight against autocracy. Plus, what does Liz Cheney have in common with Obi-Wan Kenobi? If you’d like to connect with The Lincoln Project, send an email to [email protected].
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's read before we get started, I just want to ask you to go to join the union.us |
| 0:06.2 | heed our words heed the words of President Biden get involved in saving American democracy |
| 0:12.2 | this fall by getting involved in your states and your communities to ensure that pro-democracy |
| 0:17.2 | candidates win go to join the union dot us and join the fight and now on with the show |
| 0:31.8 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project I'm your host, Reed Gailan. Today I'm joined by Jeff Timmer, |
| 0:37.6 | Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project, podcast host of a Republic if you can keep it and former |
| 0:43.1 | Executive Director of the Michigan Republican Party Jeff good to have you back it's great to be here Reed |
| 0:49.2 | All right, so Jeff today we are here in beautiful fall weather Troy Michigan glad to be in person |
| 0:55.8 | with you we had an event last night and we've had some meetings this morning so it's great always |
| 1:00.9 | to be back up here great to see all the things going on but what I wanted to talk about was |
| 1:06.2 | here you and I are both up to a point lifelong Republicans you ran the Republican Party here in |
| 1:12.9 | Michigan when we all got together in 2020 it was about taking out Donald Trump and holding some |
| 1:18.7 | of his people accountable now we recognize okay like I'm not a Republican anymore the party that |
| 1:24.8 | we grew up with the party that we worked for the party we helped lead is gone as far as we know |
| 1:29.8 | but now what we see is you know in 2020 it was pretty hard with the exception of a few people |
| 1:35.8 | here and there to get Republicans to come out publicly against Trump or somebody but now we're seeing |
| 1:43.0 | a trend this year as we're recording this 39 days from election day that in places like here in |
| 1:49.2 | Michigan in Pennsylvania in even places like Oklahoma there are Republican leaders who are coming |
| 1:55.5 | out against MAGA Trump-y Republican candidates so let's talk a little bit about Republican leaders |
| 2:02.4 | supporting Democrats for election here in 2022 again it's not a ton right but we don't need a ton |
| 2:08.5 | it's not sort of like a wave of like all of the sudden 40% of the Republican Party broke away |
| 2:14.2 | but what's different this year than two years ago two years ago one of the things that we tried to do |
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