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We've now learned that Donald Trump will appoint Stephen Miller as his deputy chief of staff for policy

and has picked Tom Holman, his former head of ice,

as his new borders are. South Dakota Governor Christy Noem will be Trump's Homeland Security Secretary.

That's a trio of anti-immigrant hardliners, and these choices suggest that Trump is very much

going to act on his threat to carry out mass deportations.

Paul Krugman of the New York Times has a great new column arguing that these mass deportations,

if carried out, will cause a large spike in inflation and produce other terrible consequences.

How will Trump voters react to that?

How will Trump himself try to make it all disappear? Today we're talking to Paul Krugman about all this. Great to have you back on, Paul. Great to be back on, if not the circumstances. Indeed. So Paul, Stephen Miller will be high up in the White House, and he's the primary architect of Trump's

agenda of mass deportations, carried out with giant camps and possibly the military. Tom Homan,

the incoming borders are, has confirmed that mass deportations will be attempted.

You wrote that this could have a catastrophic effect on grocery prices in addition to other

prices. Can you talk about all that?

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